{"id":3275,"date":"2021-11-18T18:28:18","date_gmt":"2021-11-18T18:28:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.darwinrecruitment.ch\/?p=3275"},"modified":"2023-07-26T21:59:53","modified_gmt":"2023-07-26T21:59:53","slug":"the-obstacles-for-women-in-tech","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.darwinrecruitment.ch\/de\/the-obstacles-for-women-in-tech\/","title":{"rendered":"The Obstacles for Women in Tech"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/643907981\" width=\"640\" height=\"564\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Transcript<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Gabriella Dymott:<\/strong> You mentioned, some mistakes that you&#8217;ve made along the way. Is there one particular obstacle that you think you&#8217;ve had to<\/p>\n<p><strong>Danielle Ralic:<\/strong> Yes, I think my biggest obstacle, unfortunately, has been my gender, I would say, and I think it needs to be talked about. I know that&#8217;s slightly scandalous to say, but it&#8217;s tough to be a woman in tech, and I wish it was a lot better, and it is changing. And there&#8217;s a lot of awesome allies, like helping push that through. But to be honest, it&#8217;s a hidden, silent obstacle all the time. 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But it was little things like that, and no one quite believes you when you say you&#8217;re going to do something in tech and we&#8217;re trying to build or we are building natural language processing models, and we would get like, oh, that&#8217;s too hard. That&#8217;s a hard thing to do. And I have a feeling that if I wasn&#8217;t a woman sitting in front of him, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d get that kind of<\/p>\n<p>Or my favorite is with investors and things a lot of personal questions about if you&#8217;re married, if you have kids, what your husband thinks about you starting a company, which I don&#8217;t think would also happen if I was a man. Of course, none of this can be proven. And that&#8217;s where it gets difficult to say a lot of these things. But I felt that as an obstacle. Now that I&#8217;ve sort of recognized it, I feel a little bit more empowered to tackle it head-on. But other examples when I first started out, I also didn&#8217;t have total confidence in myself, which took a year or two to grow into.<\/p>\n<p>But I had someone come and approach me and say, oh, I really like your idea. Let&#8217;s work on this together. I thought, okay, no problem. And we met and at the end of it, he had pulled me aside and said, you&#8217;re quite junior. I think I should work on this company in machine language, and I should be the CEO, and it really hit me. One of those, you have a gut reaction. You&#8217;re like, wait a second. I put a lot of thought into<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve put a lot of work to get this to where this is. And you just want to kind of take over and be CEO, and you sort of got it wrong. It&#8217;s machine learning, just a little heads up. It&#8217;s one of those points where it&#8217;s like, why do people think I&#8217;m not capable? I&#8217;m like, oh, wait. I think I&#8217;m starting to put this together. 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